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So, let's get to point already. OVERPRICED items, Aurum Set Clean is being sold 550RP.. CLEAN? FD Weapons sold from 270RP to 350RP today? I thought at first that an Economy Manager is a stupid idea but what's happening these days has changed my mind. The main reason is the wrong idea of players about the x2 RC!



2x RC & MQC Events are TEMPORARY and for COMPENSATION ONLY. No reason to increase prices permanently so please... Stop selling Over Priced items.

I'm not saying this things just for my own benefits but for others also. As you know, some people here can't donate because the donation method is only processed and can only be paid through PayPal (I'm not saying they need to hurry up the expansion of the donation process. I know you need to do some paperwork to make things legit. Take your time.) But still, some players can't afford to donate.. So what they do is farm until they drop (Remember, There's no x2 RC everyday). Imagine if the prices of Aurum hits 600rp CLEAN. What would happen to some non-donor newbies/beginners that will join the server in the future? They will not be able to afford the items thus making the server unbalanced then economy will face downfall resulting to the Server's collapse.


I'm just saying what i think might happen.. I've seen some server encountered the same problem and collapsed but this server is different and i know we can get through this.. So...

The REAL question is... How can we solve this??

(Thanks a bunch for taking time to read this Smile) sorry for the inconvenience but me and a friend has decided to make a stand. THANKS AGAIN Smile)



##1 - Posted on Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:53 am

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bwahahahah !!!!! there's no Permit on Price Hike Bish!

##2 - Posted on Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:02 am
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That's why I don't want to buy any donation items Neutral Buying any donation items has became unrealistic and has became a major problem for the new players

##3 - Posted on Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:16 am
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Aye, It WAS affordable.. But now became Impossible. (Rhymed  sneer )

##4 - Posted on Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:30 am

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We really understand your point and sad to say, staffs can't control the prices being set by players in selling their items. The law of demand and supply also applies on the how players set their prices but the sad part is some may take advantage of these circumstances to increase abnormally the in-game economic price on in-demand items. The only advised I could give is to stop patronizing over-priced items although I am not really sure if that will work for some. But it may eventually affect the price if in case majority of the community won't patronize items with not-so-reasonable price.

An alternative way to obtain the set if players don't want to buy it through RP or donate for it, is to exert an effort to take several quests (or buying Mazey Quest Chips from players) in case some can't afford.

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Yes there are other options like Grey had said.
The common awakes in the Donation is perfect 3x300 Str, int, sta, dex, ICD.

But in the game: you got 1-to-2 300 % stats
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2x 300 str/ 1x 300 Sta
2x 300 str/ 1x 300 Int

SOTA is 40RP which is much cheaper the SOPA
when it comes to Helmet - weapon- suit or suit-weapon-helmet combination

Even SOTA is 20RP doing one item is much cheaper then SOPA



##6 - Posted on Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:23 am
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Aye, but my concern is the new players that will join us in the future :3

##7 - Posted on Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:06 pm

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I know Neutral even spending time in studying all this shizzle. It is pointless.

##8 - Posted on Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:39 pm
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to all newbie just farm and farm and farm until you get your stuffs. and thats the rule of non donor players... Very Happy
800rp its easy to farm if you know the game. Very Happy


##9 - Posted on Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:54 pm
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800rp is easy to farm? You must be some sort of god.. Nothing's easy bro.

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i know that rule.....I can farm on a server for two years and still wont get the donation items

##11 - Posted on Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:31 pm
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Yeh.

A few people got tons of rp's ,and 90% of the rest have nothing, it's a little bit unbalanced but sadly, we can't do something for this. Only thing you can do is to not buy an OP item. If all the people will do that, maybe the sellers will decrease their prices.

##12 - Posted on Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:50 am
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Well for Best advice "Farming RCs" is enough to earn more RCs or RPs, You should've try different ways to earn RCs and RPs like Buy and Sell, Farm Perins and Sell, Farm QI items, Also switch to for Boss Hunting and sell the drops.

I do this for about almost a year got 1,700RP and I still have 800rp+, Do the alternative ways to earn RCs or RP, "Farming RC alone is not enough"^_^

##13 - Posted on Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:02 am
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My idea would be to start a donater event so that more donater items get into the game. This would also act as a counter-measure to the previous x2 RP Event. The donater items should decrease their RP prices and become more affordable for players across the server.

Another plan could be to add some new items which cost a TON of RP (so they get out of circulation and become more valuable). An example just out of my head could be a faerie pet (additional pet to your Stat pet and your pickup pet) which gives you some more stats. This would be a must buy for top siegers so they can keep competing in siege. A problem with this would be that newer players would have absolutely no opportuniy to obtain such an item because it would be just too expensive. Thats why I like the first thought more than this.

As a third point there could be some events of any kind on the server, lets say a hide & seek event, and the winner gets a free donater weapon or a bunch of RP. I haven't been playing a long time on this server but I really do like it but I haven't seen one ingame event so far. Maybe adding some event only GMs could be a thing there.

I keep thinking about this topic and may add some more thoughts on that later on, but thats that for now Razz


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If the donation items were able to get so darn easy, then what's the point of donating anyways?

But there is actual way of making gaming more relaxing. For one, there are more 3x 300 awakes combination in the game, then what Donation is able to cover.


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One thing I observed on this game's economy:

Many players are shouting to buy items (ex. hiphop, donate accessories, mistletoe hat) on high price but won't actually buy it when you sell those items that they were demanding.

This causes the items price to raise.

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maybe are the same sellers with other acounts, this can be a kind of scam,
this is a bad move that its used in the auctions

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Sheherazade wrote:One thing I observed on this game's economy:

Many players are shouting to buy items (ex. hiphop, donate accessories, mistletoe hat) on high price but won't actually buy it when you sell those items that they were demanding.

This causes the items price to raise.

I notice that, too.

@hiki wrote:maybe are the same sellers with other acounts, this can be a kind of scam,
this is a bad move that its used in the auctions

Yes, it can be a scam. Yes it is a tactics of trying to get more money out of an item, by using fake names to boost up the RP prices of an item. Yes it is a lazy man tactics big time.

##18 - Posted on Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:58 pm
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Yes, that's true.

I met a few guys like this who pm'd me to buy me something, then when i had the donor item, they just logout. After that you have to sell your items you bought, because you could have bought something else instead, so sometimes you rise up your prices, or you decrease them because nobody wants your donor item.

x3 awakes on helmet, suit,shield,weapon can be done w/o being donor. Daily (aleks) awakened x3 300sta on a helmet. Yes i know it's very very rare, but it can be done. After that you can sell the awake for like 130rp's, and try again. It's one way or another Wink

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 What a Face Lemme drop by some of my observations  What a Face 
first thing is, i asked some sellers on why they do Over Pricing on donor items.. most of them answered back "It seems that donors are stop donating and its hard to get some donor stuffs , so donor items slowly becoming rare and lots of players are looking for it so im asking for a better price until it reaches 380RP per FD weapons." according to him :3  What a Face 
i was just thinking, how about a x2dp event? :3
Oh. and regarding about the SOTA / SOPA are cool ideas to get a cool cheap stuffs. But the rules of SOTA is you can transfer HELM AWAKE to WEAPONS/SHIELD/SUIT and vice versa.. but Gaunt = Gaunt and shoes = shoes :3 you can do your x2 300 x1 300 but you should spend SOPA for gaunt :3

 What a Face Peace out

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@Fredner wrote: What a Face Lemme drop by some of my observations  What a Face 
first thing is, i asked some sellers on why they do Over Pricing on donor items.. most of them answered back "It seems that donors are stop donating and its hard to get some donor stuffs , so donor items slowly becoming rare and lots of players are looking for it so im asking for a better price until it reaches 380RP per FD weapons." according to him :3  What a Face 
 What a Face Peace out

As the Ambassador of the Mazey, I do have the shout box window open to monitor it. I actual do see players selling their donation items. Another thing, players would find any reasons to use, so that they can actual sell their items at a Over Pricing deal. I also noticing players are saying that they are willing to buy things but not at a price: OP.

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It would be nice hehe , but what about a special weekly event , you guys have the ability to check out the day when there are most connected . . . I think.
Then a GM make a serie of events , and players collect pts from these events
In the end of the month , the player with most pts have the right to ask for something from GM?
Or just at the end of the event the winner have the right to ask for a minor price: for example, a part from vote sets which he need or even from a Dfash if the event is hard?

Well that was just a suggestion i wanted to share , it came in a whim.

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Why not just change the rules?
Make it so 5dp = 50rp (or anything) no matter what.
make it a rule just like "no selling dp in game for rp"
then the prices will be set! for example an FD yoyo would now be 150rp and anyone selling it for higher can be banned.

Yes, this would ruin the resale market but this is not a merching server, this is a PvP server and setting the prices by rules would help newbies be relevant in sieges.

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Impossible , it means that GM should be present 24/7 to bann every player who try to op? if its like that , it just like adding a pnj for ditems, but that will ruin the server .

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Let me explain this....

Not everyone who plays this game is actually playing the same way as the next person. {Some can donate more and some can donate less. Some can farm better and some can farm okay.} <---

Mazey In-Game Economy is actual base on that ---^


So what, Mazey is doing with these special events, is keeping the balance up and running. Donation sells pitch are targeting the Donors and bring in more donors to the server. The 2x Events are targeting the non donors to aid them in their progress of earning more income to be able buy a donation item from the donors.



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