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Alright, here I am again, with yet another Siege Suggestion.
So, me and my guild mates were talking about who would be in siege, and there was a few extra people (2-3) Who wanted to siege but the line-up couldn't fit everybody in. With my suggestion, it might stop some fights that people may have before siege, trying to figure out the line-up and who will be in and who will be out. Of course, there are a lot of people who like to siege, and some can't siege every siege there is. Some people even have to go after siege, and they really want to siege, but the line-up is full. I hope you understand and agree or support my suggestion. If you don't then please, give back your opinion and feedback.
My suggestion is that there can be a more maximum player line-up, I would say 7-8 player line-up maximum. This just makes it a little bit more fun and can fit more people into the siege, that way nobody is fighting who will siege and who will sit out until the next one, especially if someone won't be there the next one but the line-up is already full. Making the line-up 7-8 people, Yes I know will make it a challenge for some people, but there's no fun if there's no challenge.
The way the 7-8 player line-up would work is, 5 players would go in (The First 5 People Lined-up) When one of them die, the next player on the line-up will enter, and the rest of the people who aren't in will have to wait until someone dies. So, yes, like it was before but, before there was no limited line-up space. Every guild will have the same amount of people (IF the line-up has 5 people) in the arena; sieging.
The Second Suggestion I have, Is the Siege Arena. I think that there should be a new bigger siege arena, I siege and yet I see a lot of range asaling going around, I could name names, but I won't, so I don't embarrass them :3 But hopefully, if there is a New Bigger Siege Arena, it will reduce the lag given; when someone macro's or just originally swaps. That way, range asaling won't happen. Also, range asal sometimes is Pos Lag or Character Position, but 90% of the time, it's Macro that causes the lag and is what causes the range asal.
This concludes my suggestion, I hope you all agree and if you disagree, it's alright as well. Just, if you disagree leave your opinion, giving solid and understanding reasons. (This Isn't Just My Idea, It's My Guilds As Well, Won't Take All The Credit)
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makedamnit
I disagree the adding of sieger in 1 guild.
How can you defeat a GUILD with full on Donators?
This is to prevent OP guild with FD Players.
But I agree on changing siege ARENA to be more huge.
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makedamnit wrote:I disagree the adding of sieger in 1 guild.
How can you defeat a GUILD with full on Donators?
This is to prevent OP guild with FD Players.
But I agree on changing siege ARENA to be more huge.
It wouldn't just be one guild, it would be any guild that wanted to put more players. Also, I barely see you online anymore, why would it matter if siege added more slots to lineup, if you never siege anymore? It gives challenge and there's no fun without a challenge. Guilds already have players that are FD, even if 5 only siege. Half the FD guilds only come on the 6 and 9pm server time sieges.
Yeah, siege's are now getting bigger and bigger. With that small siege arena, range asaling and lag is bound to happen. Bigger siege arena, and reduce the lag when Macro is being used. #
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Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:45 pm LEgionDark
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Last time I went on an Assassination spread against another guild. You had up to xxx amount of slots, like hmm 13 slots. Only the few top spots went in first, while the others in the group watch to see how the other team is playing. If a member within the first group gets kicked or run out of lives, someone in the reserve spot gets to take on the other guild.
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this is another good idea Maddy ^.^
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Inevitable wrote:this is another good idea Maddy ^.^
Lol, I can't take all the credit :3 All of our guild (If you're still in) was talking about it before a siege last night. #
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Good suggestion xD The merrier, the better!
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rhonnx wrote:Good suggestion xD The merrier, the better!
Lol really, ''the merrier the better'' lmfao. But yeah, our guild is getting a little bigger and bigger; we can't just split into 2 guilds and call for alliance cause we all know how that'll work out. Other guilds, have the same problem as well; not a lot of guilds but some do, where their guild is getting even more bigger and they can't fit all of the people that want to siege into the line-up. Let's get this suggestion to happen! :3 #
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Good idea for adding player for guild siege. and no worries now guys. cause i think all players are the now because of the wipe. We all started from the start.
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BopDT wrote:Good idea for adding player for guild siege. and no worries now guys. cause i think all players are the now because of the wipe. We all started from the start.
Yeah, but siege is starting to get a bit annoying e.e It's super annoying how we siege then you have Castbreaker and Sexybreaker swapping macro like there's no tomorrow. There needs to be something that reduces the lag that's made from Macro swapping. I could barely even move last siege, I froze so much it was unbelievable. Even one of my guildies crashed due to the lag and freezing the Breaker's were giving out.
We all deserve to at least have 2-3 more people in the line-up, it's more fun that way, right? #
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Mudkip
The answer is no.
Mazey has already addressed this. Make a second guild for your guildies and siege against each other. More people to fight means more fun, right?
Viva wrote:
We all deserve to at least have 2-3 more people in the line-up, it's more fun that way, right?
What exactly have you done to deserve anything?
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Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:43 pm Amnesty
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The reason that the 5 man limit was put in place was so that it would prevent any one guild from having too many players.
Imagine this: a guild with 10 full donor characters goes against a guild of 3 full donor characters. Not only would the guild of 3 require a kill:death rate 3.3x higher than that of the other guild, but also the 10 man guild would likely have quite a few unhappy players that didn't get to play as much as he or she wanted.
As great as Mazey FlyFF is, it isn't that active to the point where we need bigger lineups. In fact, now that it costs RP to apply for siege, we rarely see a siege have more than 4-5 active guilds, when the maximum is 15.
By creating a system that encourages large lineups, we'll eventually see the formation of two full lineup guilds that go against one another every siege, thus discouraging new players, who have very little connections, to participate with their 3-4 man lineups.
If this were to be reverted, you'd essentially perpetuate the death of a competitive siege. New players would be forced to join the powerhouse guilds or quit. The only reason one wouldn't join one of the powerhouse guilds would be due to personal conflicts, which is a whole different matter.
**And this is even assuming two powerhouse guilds would be able to form every siege. Most sieges will NOT have enough participants to even have a 10v10 siege; only a select few sieges during the day have more than 20 participating. Right now a lot of sieges are 1v1. If you increase the limit and allow one guild to have more players, the other guild will essentially has no chance, thus causing them to no longer participate in the long run. You'd be alienating a whole lot of small, close-knit siege teams that have come to thrive in the 5 man system.
In addition, you'll be opening up a few new ways to get RM buffs in siege. I can already think of two ways that can be abused; one of them cannot be prevented (as it's not technically a glitch or bug).
The reason that Mazey stated above still stands; there's no real justification against it. In fact, that was during a time when there were even more people sieging than there is now.
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Mudkip, Look, you don't really even play here anymore so you have no right to even judge anyone's suggestion really, it's for the people that play and it's for the people that wanted this to happen that's the only reason why I suggested it. However, thank you for your feedback and such.
Amnesty, Yeah, I totally understand how guilds would sometimes have more siegers than another guild and how unfair it would be, but like I said I only suggested this for the other people who wanted this to happen and they asked me to suggest it so that's what I did. You make an excellent point and you pointed out everything and such, sieges are getting a little smaller each time, but sometimes they get bigger which is rare. But also, a lot of people have a problem with having 2 guilds with their guildies in it, but the thing they would mostly have trouble with is the Alliance to not kill each other since it's their other guild. When I was in Innovation (I'm not anymore due to reasons) we tried doing 2 guilds, but in the end some of Innovation started killing our other guildies and they kinda got a little upset/mad about that. But again, you did point out good points. Thank you for your feedback.
Note: Mudkip, you don't know me so how would you say I don't deserve things, It's just a simple suggestion that I put up for others, this wasn't my idea but I somehow liked it, people wanted me to put this suggestion up, so I did. There's no need for disrespectful feedback, but thank you anyways.
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Mudkip
Disrespectful? You said that you
deserved 2-3 more people in your line up. My question is, what have you, or anyone else for that matter done to deserve anything?
Viva wrote:Mudkip, Look, you don't really even play here anymore so you have no right to even judge anyone's suggestion really
This is an example of disrespect. I have as much right as anyone to judge your suggestion. Which is something I also didn't do, I gave you Mazeys opinion, not mine. Don't post a suggestion if you can't handle criticism.
The point of making two separate guilds isn't so that the guilds can co-operate. It's so that they can fight against each other in siege. Co-operating, while obviously not punishable is exactly what Mazey was trying to avoid. It's still one guild full of donors if you're working together and not killing each other.
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makedamnit
+1 to mudkip
I already told this to them.
I disagree becuz of a guild with full of Donors
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Mudkip wrote:Disrespectful? You said that you
deserved 2-3 more people in your line up. My question is, what have you, or anyone else for that matter done to deserve anything?
Viva wrote:Mudkip, Look, you don't really even play here anymore so you have no right to even judge anyone's suggestion really
This is an example of disrespect. I have as much right as anyone to judge your suggestion. Which is something I also didn't do, I gave you Mazeys opinion, not mine. Don't post a suggestion if you can't handle criticism.
The point of making two separate guilds isn't so that the guilds can co-operate. It's so that they can fight against each other in siege. Co-operating, while obviously not punishable is exactly what Mazey was trying to avoid. It's still one guild full of donors if you're working together and not killing each other.
Actually, for a matter of fact I can handle criticism. Criticism doesn't affect me either way, it's just your opinion which is respected. Amnesty already pointed out a few points that I thanked her for doing. Also, I didn't say I deserved 2-3 more people, I said people wanted 2-3 more people in everyone's line-up, not just mine. If only my guild (Which makes no sense since I'm in no guild) was the only one to have 2-3 more people in the line-up, How would that even be fair? It wouldn't be fair at all. Again, I put up this suggestion for others, they wanted it suggested so I asked if they wanted me to suggest it, So I did. I for one, wasn't disrespecting anyone, and I'm sorry if you felt like it was disrespect, but in all honesty, you don't play here anymore is what I've heard, you and a couple of others have left but you still get on the forum once in awhile. You have the right to comment your opinion, just make sure you have the right facts. Thank you and Good Night or Good Morning.
To makedamnit, Like I said before, I posted this suggestion for others, they wanted me to post it, I was kind enough to do that. Also, you barely siege anymore :/ I know that having (Like Amnesty said) a guild of more Donor siegers against a guild with less donate siegers wouldn't be fair. It's just a suggestion that people wanted, it's not like every suggestion gets made. #
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i suggest to make 2-3days to join guild when they leave so avoid all the full donor become team..the full donor make A dunate on this server..
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To be honest I've felt like that would be a good idea for a while. Mudkip, you aren't Mazey so don't act like you have any sway in the decisions that happen in regards to suggestions.
However I do agree that more guilds attending siege would be amazing, but a lot of the guild members don't want to fight against each other. Hopefully something can be done with this suggestion +1 viva <3 #
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If you have your own suggestion, make a topic.
Thanks hunni <3
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i would love to have more then 5 people in the line up.. longer siege = more fun + no drama's about the LU anymore. although we really need a bigger siege arena again :> this arena is too small for the amount of people who play in siege.
+1 for this, Viva le pro! xoxo ;D
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in big community we need big arena.. more line up.. more donors.. more fun...
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-1 We had this discussion back in the day. 5 people is a steady number. If there are 5 FD in one guild a guild with say 3 can still stand a chance. However if all the donors are in one guild say 7-8 like you want. Then people with say 3-4-5 would not stand a chance.
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Viva
I've already discussed this and this is old. It's funny how you go in and pick out MY suggestion instead of any of the new ones. It's a suggestion, get over it. It's your opinion, which is always welcome, but Amnesty already pointed out everything you basically stated, come up with your own opinion please :3 Have fun in-game.
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Viva wrote:I've already discussed this and this is old. It's funny how you go in and pick out MY suggestion instead of any of the new ones. It's a suggestion, get over it. It's your opinion, which is always welcome, but Amnesty already pointed out everything you basically stated, come up with your own opinion please :3 Have fun in-game.
I read the suggestion and comment i don't go through every opinion i just give my own. Which if i am correct is what your suppose to do
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Viva
Okay, But I'm not going to argue with you on my thread or on anybody's. So if you would, please leave me alone. Thank you.
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